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Trojan_Knight
I am here on behalf of my small community of guildmates. Also known as Legends of the Empire. We would like to form an alliance with yall if possible. I have done some background on you. As soon you will probally do on us. I know we have many many things in common between your guild an mine. The only difference is that you dont pk for most part. And in my guild. Thats a choice to or not. But we dont pk just anyone. More often than not, its a pre arranged boxing match so to speak.

Im not here to get help with any wars, im not here to get any special deals of any sort. Im here so that in case your members. Or mine. Have a issue or a question or need help with anything for example. Then both our castle doors are open for helping one another. Im here to broaden our horizens on friendships. Because everyone can always use more friends.

In Legends of the Empire we have pretty strict requirements for the most part. We do not accept bag jumpers, scammers or etc of any sort of meaning. And those that are that sort of thing, will never have any dealings with ~LE~ in any sort of manner. As of now, we still are a somewhat very new "guild" with a small handfull of members. But all of us are very mature players, that play with respect an play to have fun at the same time. Some of us are long time players, an others are somewhat new, an then some of us are somewhere in the middle of that. And in order for a suggestion of an alliance to come about. Then the guild in suggestion must have a very strong organization or be very organized. As i have heard, an seen, that you are.

Currently we do not have a completed web page. Its in the works. But we do have our forums up. And they have only been up for a couple of days. If you would like. And even though theirs not to much info their. Due to it being pretty much very new. Your more then welcome to take a peak at it and check it out if you so choose to.

http://www.createphpbb.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=legends


If you have any more questions or comments. Feel free to drop me a pm in game, or in our forums or here if you wish. I look forward to hearing from you.

Peace
Trojan Knight
Kedan
hey, it always good to here that riva's reputation has gain us more friends, or atleast potetal friends biggrin.gif

well just to start off a bit negative (sorry) you said you are a very new guild and only have a few member. Your guild does sound like the kind of guild we would wat to be allys with (apart from the pk bit which ill talk about later) nly problem is as your guild is very new we cant be sure that over time it will say that way, so we need to give your guild time to mature and grow into the guild that it will stay, and it could be risky allying with you now, then you get a few bad members who ruin your guild and that will bring our reputation down. But i'm sure you will make sure this doesn't happen, we will just need time to make sure you run you guild the way you say you will smile.gif

Also about the pk tihng, in riva we don't pk anyone, but we do alouw people to train against eachother, or have contests, this is because it is an honarble fight where both partys of the fight know the risks and are preped to die, but if ywe do kill somone we always return the bags, however, if we are in a pk map and get attack, then they die(maybe another riva joins in t protect them) then that is ok, but again we return the bag. We belive this shows how horable our guild is, we never attack anyone tht isn't expect to be attacked.

If you alow you players to atack everyone they wont in a pk map this could be a problem, but if you change it so they can only attack if the other person is expecting being attack(like they ask them do you want to fight) then it will be ok, keeping the deathbag or not wont be so much of a problem, just as long as they both agree to a fight.

you ally request has to be one of the best i have seen, it left me almost no question to ask because you had already answered them smile.gif. I would suggest what you do now is you tell your guild members to treat us like allys, so they dont attack us if they see us in a pk map, they return our deathbags if we die ans so on(like i said we do all of this already without being allys with anyone) and also try to get them to talk to every riva member they see, maybe offer to help us if they have the time, if enough of your player do this(also get them to say who they are eg. hi im a member of ~LE~ we are hoping to ally with riva, i was just wondering if you need any help with anything because i have some spare time) it really really increase your chances of allying with us! but ofcourse if they haven't got time to help us then they could always just talk and get to know us better, and us get to know you smile.gif
Trojan_Knight
I appreciate your kind words about my post. In regards to it being one of thee best you may of laid eyes apon. I also appreciate you taking time to read my post. But first I may need to clarify a few things. Because with regards to pking it may of been misunderstood. Or maybe I didnt write clearly.

As for pking. Like I said in ~LE~ it is a choice to do so or not. Where as riva doesnt do so. And we have some that do. As an ally, no member of Riva would be pk'd. And that goes for anyone that is friends with us, or is a kind gentle, mature, acking, non scamming type of person. I have never pk'ed anyone. That i didnt ask about it first. And I dont go out pking anyone and everyone. We all have our blacklists, an we all have them for reasons. As for db's I feel as if lets say for example only. A member of guild A attacks one of our members, an that person that attacked died without asking for permission to pk with us in the first place. Then that persons db will be kept. Now prearrangements. As you talk of. And as I was basically refering to in my oringinal post. Is more like how we are. DB's are usually returned, and if not. Is because once in a great while. The person will say, "Go ahead keep them, because the items are not of to much importance." And that is usually the senerio if you have been training with that person for a long time as i have. With a select few that I train with.

As for us being new. I can completely understand that. We are currently at 12 strong mature members. We do not grow fast because of our strict requirements, an back ground checks an the lists goes on an on about that. We may gain 1 - 2 new members per week or two weeks. The biggest our small community (~LE~) will ever become is , is maybe 55- 60 members at absolute maxium. So figuring that right now, we are almost 1/4 full. And I do not see us becoming at max compacity for a long time to come. We are very organized in how we approach things in general from helping people, to things of such that we are currently talking about in here. ~LE~ has been around for about a month now. And not one of our members has been blacklisted by anyone. Well I cant say that. because honestly whos not on CG's pk list. lol.. But to sum this up. You basically wont hear about us. Because we do not really do anything to draw attention to ourselfs. We more less, keep to ourselfs. And when we see an opportunity we grab ahold of it an let ya know. As you have seen here with me an this ordeal that i have presented amongst you.

Thankyou for taking the time to read this.

Peace
Trojan Knight
WiseDwarF
Sorry I only had time to read the beginning of ur last post, but i'd just like to let you know that it is unlikely for Riva to ally with a guild that supports pking at all. We are completely passive and wish to have allies that are also. You guys sound like a friendly guild overall, but by allying with you guys would say to others that we partly support pking. Peace Treaty, maybe. Alliance, not likely.

Thanks,
WiseDwarF
Trojan_Knight
Well thanks for partially reading my last post. I guess that is better than nothing at all. As for an alliance. I can understand your situation with this ordeal or having an alliance with us..

A peace Treaty. Hmm, that would be okay to. As long as you would like to have one with us. I dont see how it would be a problem. I dont know how yalls idea of alliances or peace treaties work. So these are my opinions of how they work for us. If you have different opinions. Please let me know.

In an alliance I would think we would work hand an hand as often as we could. Now as in a peace treaty, my opinion of that is. That we would get along, an basically be polite neighbors to one another. Occasionally we may work hand in hand. But overall just friendly neighbors.

Well if you would like a Peace Treaty. Just let me know. ~LE~ is all for it. If not, I can understand. Either way, I see no reason why we cant be friends.

Peace
Trojan Knight
Kedan
Yeah i agree with wise on this, we shoould deffently take up a peace treaty with you for now at least, and like wise said, you do allow your members to go and kill anyone they want in pk maps, even if most of them choose not to, so we cant support that, but having a peace treaty with you, i personally see no problem with that, it could also mean over time we start helping eachother out more and more, and if none of your members go out and pking everyone in sight then there might be a chance to allie, but thats in the future. I would suggest you try to pm coco ingame and talk about this more because he is the person who will decide, and he normally very bussy doing other stuff for the guild so he might miss this post.

I hope we can get a peace traty between our guilds, and worked 2gether in the future smile.gif
soad7777
To be fair and honest TrojanKnight...we dont have many alliances, persay. We do however have a lot of friends that we help out. Your post is one of the best ive seen, but if you wouldnt mind for curiositys sake, could you list the people in your guild? If you have a free moment that is. Thanks a lot for your posts, and see you ingame soon. smile.gif
Kedan
oh yeah that would also be good, nice idea soad. this would help us see if we know any of you members this should help you as fromt he sounds of it you have good members, and some of our members might have meet them smile.gif
Trojan Knight
I apologize for the long delay in my reply. Real life issues, an other game related topics have been keeping me busy. Including one rather long process of posting a chat log that some of you may of "heard" about in the EL forums.. Anyways..

To reply to some of yalls questions. Thanks SoAd7777 (i hope i spelled right) I appreicate the compliment. As for having allies an or such. Thats cool. Everyone has their own way of doing things. And I can understand that. Since my last reply, i have chatted with a few more of your members than usual. And so have my members. Either by us initating the conversation. Or one of your members doing so. Which is great in any case. As for me listing whos in ~LE~ . No problem so long that ~LE~ recieves the same. I have been speaking with Wisedwarf from time to time, well maybe only 2 times recently. And he as suggested that maybe I ask. For the leaders of RIVA to sit down with me, at some point or time, to discuss what a peace treaty would consist of. To me thats not a bad idea. So its up to yall, wheater you would like to or not. And if so, when and where.

As for whos a member of ~LE~ ? Well take a peak below. You will find the link to a thread in my forums. About such a thing in alphabetical order.

http://www.createphpbb.com/phpbb/viewtopic...;mforum=legends

I hope this helps you all out. And I have apprecitated all the replies and suggestions that have been made. Over the little time that we have all discussed this. If you have any questions, or etc. Feel free to pm any of us in game, or post on our forums as a Guest.

Thanks again for taking the time to read this.

Peace
Trojan Knight
WiseDwarF
Please make that part of your forum open to guest replies. It is telling me I must be a member to reply to ur message
Adranbach
It is a pleasure to have ur post in our forum, Trojan_Knight. I am pretty sure that u guys are a nice guild, and ur member will benefit greatly for being part of ~LE~. Our rules about pk are very restrictive, but we welcome very well demonstrations of interest from good players like you. Count with friendship from Rivans on game smile.gif
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